NOWHEREZONE
Some men who want to compliment random women on the street are genuinely good guys who just don’t understand why their comments might be unwelcome. Some men who want to compliment random women on the street are creepy predators. Most are somewhere in between, and guess what? I don’t know you, I don’t know your life, and I have no idea if you’re going to leave it at “Hey, you look good in that dress!” or follow it up with “But you’d look better without it! Har har! C’mon, where’re you going? I know you heard me! Fucking cunt, nobody wants your fat ass anyway, bitch.”

When you compliment a random woman who doesn’t know you, no matter how nice you are about it, there’s a good chance she’s going to freak out internally because for all she knows, you could be that latter type. And I get that it’s really unfair that women would just assume that about you. I get that it sucks that sometimes, expressing totally reasonable opinions like “hey you’re hot” will make women terrified of you or furious at you. That’s not fair.

But if you’re going to lay the blame for that somewhere, for fuck’s sake, don’t blame the woman. Blame all the guys who have called her a bitch and a cunt for ignoring their advances. Blame all the guys who may have harassed, abused, or assaulted her in the past. Blame all the people who may never do such a thing themselves, but who were quick to blame her and tell her to just get over it. Blame the fact that if she stops and talks to you and then something bad happens, people will blame her for stopping and talking to you.

[TRIGGER WARNING: RAPE CULTURE/ BODY SHAMING/ VICTIM-BLAMING/ STREET HARASSMENT/ MISOGYNY/ SEXIST SLURS]

Why You Shouldn’t Tell That Random Girl On The Street That She’s Hot » Brute Reason (via brute-reason)

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(via misandry-mermaid)

You know, I’ll go a step further and say - there are no “men who want to compliment random women on the street [who] are genuinely good guys who just don’t understand why their comments might be unwelcome.” There are guys who pretend that they don’t understand why their comments are unwelcome. But the man who whistles out his car window at me while I’m waiting for a light, the guy who stares at me while I ride past on my bike, the guy who says “Hey beautiful!” at me and my friend as we’re talking at an outdoor cafe - none of those guys want to make me feel good.

Not a single one.

I keep hearing about this guy! The good guy who catcalls and doesn’t get how it’s wrong, the nice guy who just wants to tell you you have beautiful eyes. And every time I’m told about that guy, it’s so that I don’t react, don’t glare, don’t respond negatively. Because who knows! Maybe he really super meant it in his heart and was just trying to pay you a compliment.

Because here’s the thing - here’s how I know that the nice guy ain’t real; because I always do react, always glare, always respond negatively. I always say, “No, that wasn’t okay. Don’t do that to me again.” And a nice guy? Would come back with, “Oh, man, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to make you feel bad. You’re right. I won’t do that again.” A nice guy who didn’t get it would say, “Wow, I didn’t think about it that way. Is this something that you think a lot of women feel?”

And that never happens - what happens is I get called names, or have coffee thrown at my face, or get shoved up against a wall, or get followed for fifteen blocks, or get shouted out from six inches away by a man who’s six inches taller and fifty pounds bigger than I am. What happens is that I’m shown, again and again and again, that these “compliments” are prologues to a story this guy’s just desperate to tell, the story of him scaring me, hurting me, making sure I know my place. And he can tell the story as loud as he wants, because he can always fall back on, “I’m a good guy! She’s the one who started it! I was just trying to pay the bitch a compliment.

So stop telling me that there are good guys out there who just don’t understand, because there aren’t. What there are, are guys who will pretend to be good guys, right up until you don’t smile at them. And then they show who they really are.

(via leupagus)

nethilia:

murdorito:

ankankimatank:

dollymacabre:

mszombi:

fleurdulys:

The Irritating Gentleman - Berthold Woltze
1874

I know that feel, Painting Lady. 

My bus ride to and from work every day.

They never published the second picture, which was the one where she backhanded him in the fucking face for getting all up in her shit.

Oh great, good to know this has been a problem for HUNDREDS OF YEARS CAN WE PLEASE STOP DOING THIS ALREADY JUST FUCK OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE

Everyone is overlooking something very significant in this picture, that I saw in two seconds, that adds a layer of super slime to his whole awful attitude. “The Irritating Gentleman” is a politeness.
She’s wearing all black in 1874. Black gloves, hat, cloak, and dress. In public. The whole nine yards. That’s not a fashion choice or a gothic thing. Back then when people wore all black like that, they were in mourning for someone who died. No one did mourning like the Victorians, that shit was an art form to them.
Someone in her family has died—she could even be a young widow. No one’s accompanying her either. With the carpet bag? She’s traveling alone while still in deep mourning. Look at the closeup. She’s got tears in her eyes. She is upset, devastated in a way that one is only when someone has died. And the guy’s still bothering her, like her problems are flippant bullshit and she needs to just smile or pay attention to him because ladies are supposed to be pleasing for men no matter what shit they’re going through. That’s not a look of “what an ass.” That’s a look of devastation that even in her pain, she’s expected to give people like him focus. She’s not mad. She’s hurt. And to add insult to injury? Everyone would be able to tell. It was a clear sign and still is in ways that someone is mourning, to dress in black crepe like that. He would know why she’s wearing all black, and he’s still demanding her attention.
What an insufferable dick.
At least I’m not the only one who saw this.

nethilia:

murdorito:

ankankimatank:

dollymacabre:

mszombi:

fleurdulys:

The Irritating Gentleman - Berthold Woltze

1874

I know that feel, Painting Lady. 

My bus ride to and from work every day.

They never published the second picture, which was the one where she backhanded him in the fucking face for getting all up in her shit.

Oh great, good to know this has been a problem for HUNDREDS OF YEARS CAN WE PLEASE STOP DOING THIS ALREADY JUST FUCK OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE

Everyone is overlooking something very significant in this picture, that I saw in two seconds, that adds a layer of super slime to his whole awful attitude. “The Irritating Gentleman” is a politeness.

She’s wearing all black in 1874. Black gloves, hat, cloak, and dress. In public. The whole nine yards. That’s not a fashion choice or a gothic thing. Back then when people wore all black like that, they were in mourning for someone who died. No one did mourning like the Victorians, that shit was an art form to them.

Someone in her family has died—she could even be a young widow. No one’s accompanying her either. With the carpet bag? She’s traveling alone while still in deep mourning. Look at the closeup. She’s got tears in her eyes. She is upset, devastated in a way that one is only when someone has died. And the guy’s still bothering her, like her problems are flippant bullshit and she needs to just smile or pay attention to him because ladies are supposed to be pleasing for men no matter what shit they’re going through. That’s not a look of “what an ass.” That’s a look of devastation that even in her pain, she’s expected to give people like him focus. She’s not mad. She’s hurt. And to add insult to injury? Everyone would be able to tell. It was a clear sign and still is in ways that someone is mourning, to dress in black crepe like that. He would know why she’s wearing all black, and he’s still demanding her attention.

What an insufferable dick.

At least I’m not the only one who saw this.

TW: harassment I debated whether or not to share this story.

erikamoen:

unwinona:

And then I debated whether or not to put it on Tumblr…but I decided it was important.  Because in my own way, I can (unfortunately) point out exactly what is wrong with men when they don’t realize how hard it is to be a woman.  How we do not have equal opportunities and freedoms in everyday life.  How most men, even good caring men, have no clue what we go through on a daily basis just trying to live our lives.

So here goes.

I often ride the Metro when I commute from North Hollywood to Long Beach in order to save money.  I bring a book, pointedly wear a ring on my ring finger to imply I’m married (I’m not) and keep to myself.  

Without fail, I am aggressively approached by men on at least half of these commutes.  The most common approach is to walk up to where I am sitting with body language that practically screams LEAVE ME ALONE and sit down next to me or as close to me as possible, when the train is not crowded and there are many empty rows.  Sometimes an overly friendly arm is draped over the railing behind me, or they attempt to lean in close to talk to me as if we are old friends.  Without fail, the man or boy in question will lean to close and ask me

What are you reading?

Is that a good book?

What’s that book about?


This serves the double purpose of getting my attention and trapping me in a conversation.  If I stop reading the book I enjoy to talk to you, random stranger, you hit on me or just stay way too close to me.  If I tell you to leave me alone, you get mad at me.  Because I somehow, as a woman, owe you conversation.

Tonight when I boarded the train in Long Beach at 10:30pm, it started up right away.  I was not on the train more than three minutes before three boys who looked eighteen sat in the row behind me and leaned over the seats into my personal space, close enough to breathe on me.  The one with his arm draped over onto the back of my seat asked me—surprise— “what are you reading?”  I went through my usual routine.  I told them loudly and firmly that I wanted to be left alone to read my book.  They got angry.  I was told “Why are you going to be like that?  I just wanted to talk!”  His friends start laughing at me and they don’t move, telling me come on! and why are you gonna be like that? until I tell them to leave me the fuck alone, stand up, and move to the front of the car near the three other people on the train, a couple and a business man in a suit.  They spend the next two stops shouting at me from the back of the car, alternating between trying to sound flirtatious and making fun of me, shouting “I bet she’s reading Stephanie Meyer!  I bet she’s reading Twilight or some shit!  You reading Twilight or some shit?”

They exit the train at the next stop, and I’m relieved.  The train is going out of service at the next station, so we all exit to board a new train to Los Angeles.  As we board, the business man steps aside to let me go through the door first and asks me if those guys were bothering me.  I say yes, that it happens all the time, and he tells he’ll beat them up for me if they come back.  He is a nice person who talks to me like I’m a human being instead of a walking pair of tits, and I make a mental note:  This is how a real man talks to a woman on a train.

The business man and the couple exit our new Blue Line train an exit or so later, and I think my night is ending on a good note.  A seemingly normal man enters the train with his bicycle.  At this point I am three rows from the front of the car, another man was sitting near the back of the car, and the rest of the car is empty.  Bicycle Man walks halfway down the row, and settles into the seat directly opposite me.  Perfect, I think.  Twice in one night.

It’s not the first time I’ve been bothered multiple times.  As such, I’m still amped from the teenagers on the first train.  So when this man leans across the aisle into my personal space and asks me, yes, what are you reading, I assertively but calmly tell him to please leave me alone, I am reading.  The man stands up, moving to the front and muttering angrily over his shoulder that it isn’t his fault I’m pretty.

Yes.  Exactly that.  I am the bad person in this situation because somehow this is all my fault.  I started this by being attractive.  I am making a mental note to bitch about this to my friends later.  I go so far as to write it down so I know I’m remembering it properly.  

It is at this exact moment I realize Bicycle Man is not taking it well.  The seemingly annoying but normal man a moment before is now talking to himself, becoming agitated.  In my years of being bothered by total strangers, I have learned how to hold a book and seem to be reading while taking in everything around me.  He is glaring at me, and says out loud in an angry baby talk voice “PLEASELEAVEMEALONEI’MREADING.  PLEASE LEAVE ME ALOOOONE.”

Then he’s up out of his seat and things go from bad to worse.  He begins pacing back and forth in front of his bike, alternating between screaming something about his mother being dead and calling me a slut, a hoe, a bitch.  I am frozen in place.  There is one other person in the car, and I’m not sure if trying to change seats will draw more attention to me or less. I trust my instincts and show no fear, doing my best to appear to be calmly reading my book, never once looking up to acknowledge the abuse he’s hurling at me.  There are four stops left until we reach the main downtown station where there are lights and security officers.  Those four stops are virtually abandoned, and I have no guarantee that leaving to wait for another train won’t motivate him to leave the train as well, leaving us potentially alone at a metro station platform just outside of Compton.  I’m frozen in place, trying to plan what I’m going to do if he decides to take all this rage directly to me.  I’m ready to kick him, scream, make enough noise that he panics and flees.  

At this point he’s punching the walls and doors of the train, screaming at me.  He stares me full in the face and screams

SUCK MY DICK, BITCH

YOU BITCH

YOU STUPID BITCH

YOU GODDAMN HO

IF I HAD A GUN I’D SHOOT YOU

I WOULD FUCKING KILL YOU BITCH

This went on for two stops.  No one came to see what was happening.  The man in the last row was as frozen as I was.  I’m not angry he didn’t come to my defense.  He was smaller, older, and frailer-looking than I was.  Again, I was worried if I got up, I would be turning my back on him to walk down the aisle.  In the state he was in, I had no guarantee it wouldn’t get physical, and I had more physical strength with my back to the window and feet in kicking position where I was.  If he had chosen to assault me, I would only be making it easier for him by standing up and putting myself directly in his path.  On and on, over and over, he screamed at me, screamed at his dead mother, screamed at me again.

The moment we reached the downtown station, I was out the door and down the stairs.  I still had to catch a connecting train to North Hollywood, and made sure there was no sign of Bicycle Man before I entered the car.  That’s when I finally starting shaking, and almost threw up.  By the time I exited the Red Line and reached my car I could barely breathe and my heart was pounding out of my chest.  Even now, in my own home, my hands are still shaking and for some reason the stress has made my back muscles feel cold and numb.  From all the tension, I can only assume.  I can’t eat anything, I still feel like I’m going to vomit, and I’d be lying if I said I hadn’t cried so much, so hard I still have the headache.

So when people (men) want to talk about “legitimate” forms of assault, tell girls they should be nice to strangers and give men the benefit of a doubt, tell them to consider it a compliment, tell them to ignore the bad behavior of men, I want them to be forced to feel, for even one minute, what it feels like to have so much verbal hatred and physical intimidation thrown at them for nothing more than being female and not wanting to share.  

I just wanted to read my book.

It’s not my fault I’m pretty.

I’ve regularly had very similar experiences to this as well.

To the manbabies who baaaaaw at me about how it hurts their feefees when I write about being terrified when unknown men approach me in public, it is because of experiences like this. I have no way of knowing which men are going to simply call me a bitch and which will escalate further (Or, even more rarely, the ones who will leave me alone without pushing it when I don’t respond. They are the rarest of all). Maybe the interrupting man is harmless, or maybe he’s like the pieces of shit above, it’s impossible to tell by looking. All I have to go on is the fact that both the harmless men and the pieces of shit men feel entitled to invade my space and interrupt me from my book or sketchbook, without having made even passing eye contact with me, simply because they have decided I should be paying attention to them.

All I can do to keep my eyes down, not respond, and get away as soon as I safely can.

It’s not a matter of me being rude, it’s a matter of protecting myself based off of my  experiences.

Does that make you mad that I’m not being fair? Fuck off. Walk a mile in my shoes.

(TW: Street Harassment/Rape Culture)

upsides-downsides:

throwingmilkshaakesatcars:

Literate: So this just happened,

brandycooklyn:

lookoutpinkie:

brandycooklyn:

lookoutpinkie:

brandycooklyn:

lookoutpinkie:

brandycooklyn:

lookoutpinkie:

lookoutpinkie:

brandycooklyn:

I’m standing outside the store smoking and some girl walks by, looks me up and down and says, “Boy how do you look so cool when you’re so hot?”

And before I could even think the words just fell out of my mouth.

“I’ll fucking kill you.”

Her jaw fell…

[snip]

You’re very right. But guess what: I would never do anything like that. Because I’m not a fucking psycho.

My entire original post was a lie appropriated from another girls’ post.

Isn’t it funny how when a woman is complimented by a man - as you say - the man is suddenly a sexual predator who deserves to be bashed for daring to catcall her. Yet I led you to believe that the exact same thing happened to me, with the roles reversed, and suddenly I’m a monster who deserves to be institutionalised.

The post was based on this one: http://throwingmilkshaakesatcars.tumblr.com/post/26646205036/so-this-just-happened - See any similarities?

I’m standing outside the store smoking and some dudebro walks by, looks me up and down and says, “Baby girl how do you look so cool when you’re so hot?”

And before I could even think the words just fell out of my mouth.

“I’ll fucking kill you.”

His jaw fell open, he muttered a tiny “sorry” then scurried off.

This woman is being hailed for her actions by many - yet you think it’s mighty fine to label me a monster and a deviant of society for (not really) doing the exact same thing.

Thanks for helping me prove the existence of a double standard, and verifying the persistent stereotype of men as sexualising monsters, and women as “innocent, juvenile, sexy creatures, who can get away with anything with a smile” - quote my friend Sarah who said this just now.

Much appreciated.

And that’s a wrap.

You know, I saw this and I was going to ignore it and let it go because I am so sick to death of the likes and reblogs from that stupid fucking post but no, I’ve changed my mind.

This a male who posted this, so let’s just clear that up right away.

Listen child, I am not sorry that you are so absolutely butt-hurt over my knee-jerk reaction to someone harassing me in the street and let me tell you why. I have been

  • followed down the street by people on foot
  • followed down the street by people in cars
  • almost pulled into a car
  • followed home
  • had garbage thrown at me
  • been spit on
  • been grabbed by strangers, several times violently
  • been told I’ll be raped or deserve to be raped more times than I can count
  • been dragged up an escalator opposite my “down” escalator
  • had genitals exposed to me on several occasions

All because I did not respond positively to men “complimenting” me. And those are just the items off the top of my head at 8:15am so pardon the absolute fuck out of me if I don’t buy into this “he was just complimenting you” bullshit. When you are a woman and you can’t leave your house without fear of being harassed by strangers yes, every man is a potential predator. Let me be clear that that is not because I am a monster. Oh no, it’s not women who have purposely done this to men do demonize them. This is a result of the men who treat us in the ways I listed above. 

Do you have any concept of how warped it is that you think women should passively accept whatever men choose to throw at them? Should we be more polite? Should we smile more? Fuck. Off.

I am not some newly out of high school child, I am a grown motherfucking woman who has had quite enough of smiling and being polite. I have been smiling and being polite since you were in diapers, kid, and you know what I’ve learned? It’s likely to get me killed.

No, actually killed, not knee-jerk empty words pretend killed. Duct taped, strangled, beaten, and dead. Because you see, smiling and being polite doesn’t work. It doesn’t deter anyone or anything and I know this for a fact because it is a part of my life, of every woman’s life. Women are told that if they don’t want to be raped they shouldn’t go out at night, drink too much, or wear short skirts, that if we don’t want men catcalling us we should dress modestly (which, if you ask any woman, you will know is a joke because how we’re dressed makes no difference to how men treat us) or travel in groups. 

You have 100% bought into the fucked up concept that women are responsible for keeping themselves from being raped, assaulted, and harassed and not the responsibility of men to stop raping, assaulting, and harassing us.

Society tells us that it is our responsibility to maintain our safety and to be “street smart” and yet, when a woman does exactly that and several thousand women agree, you, a man, want to label her a monster because the way in which she was responsible for her own safety does not jive with what you believe to be appropriate. 

Well gooooo fuck yourself and your cry baby “double standard”.

And that’s a wrap, BITCH.

You all need to read throwingmilkshaakesatcars commentary. Golden. Exactly what I’ve tried to explain to so many people.

(TW Street Harassment/Rape Culture/Fat Hate/Fat Shame)

octopuseyess:

sunken—eyes:

Daniel Tosh asked his viewers to film themselves groping women

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tzikeh:

As you probably know by now, Daniel Tosh has a history of being sexist and misogynist—but I bet you didn’t know that, on his television show, he actively solicited his male viewers to take videos of themselves physically harassing women, and then upload those videos to the internet.

Just in case they didn’t understand what it was he wanted them to do, he then played video of himself doing it. You know, as a visual aid.

I know you’ll be shocked to hear that his viewers did exactly what he asked.

(Extra bonus: fat-shaming! “Make sure she’s aware that you are in fact feeling a roll.”)

Sign the petition to get Comedy Central to kick this guy off the air.

Note that the network said fuck-all when this “go grope women!” segment aired —more than a year ago. So yeah, we need to make some noise.

oh my god

Jesus fucking rollerblading Christ.

death to daniel tosh
[TW RAPE] Male Privilege: Daniel Tosh edition v2

sunshine-and-arson:

aboutmaleprivilege:

dear sisters and sister-loving followers,
please sign the petition and email Viacom. If all of you do it right now, we can flood Viacom with thousands of complaints. This guy is a piece of shit and he is perpetrating rape culture like NO-ONE ELSE right now. Register your disgust.
Make a difference.

starvedforjustice
:

In 2011 Daniel Tosh Aired an Actual Rape on his Show

bad-dominicana:

jonathan-cunningham:

lyssamae:

iamateenagefeminist:

MASSIVE TRIGGER WARNING. 

After finding out this happened, I was really on the fence about posting it. It’s a disturbing video, from what I’ve heard. I haven’t watched the whole thing because discriptions from friends has been enough. Make no mistake, this is an actual rape happening. Tosh and Comedy Central thought it was funny enough to put on the air and make fun of. 

Please if you haven’t yet, sign the petition to get this man off television. He is a disgusting vile rape apologist and deserves absolutely nothing.  

Viacom, the owners of Comedy Central also has a contact page. Please contact them and let them know how disgusting this is.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK. WHAT IN THE ACTUAL EVERLIVING FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS MAN.

Dear lord baby jesus I want to cry.

Earlier this year, Daniel Tosh actively encouraged his viewers to touch women’s stomachs without consent, and then aired a clip where he touches a coworker who looks incredibly uncomfortable and asks him “don’t touch ever touch my tummy”. Then he calls for all his viewers to do the same and says “be careful, because they pretend they don’t love it”.

Let me type that again: “be careful, because they pretend they don’t love it”. He assaults women to make a joke, airs a full on rape to get a cheap laugh, and threatens hecklers with rape when they can’t tolerate his nonsense.

tell me more about how people who wish rape on people arent a fucking threat to everyone safety.

I hope he drowns. 

“They pretend they don’t love it”

Seriously, please choke on something, Daniel Tosh. Please. 

HOKAY 

ALSO PLEASE REBLOG AS A TEXT POST SO EVERYONE CAN GET ALL THIS INFO. Let’s make some noise. 

hamburgerjack:

octopuseyess:

sunken—eyes:

Daniel Tosh asked his viewers to film themselves groping women

ccc-ccc-ccc:

tzikeh:

As you probably know by now, Daniel Tosh has a history of being sexist and misogynist—but I bet you didn’t know that, on his television show, he actively solicited his male viewers to take videos of themselves physically harassing women, and then upload those videos to the internet.

Just in case they didn’t understand what it was he wanted them to do, he then played video of himself doing it. You know, as a visual aid.

I know you’ll be shocked to hear that his viewers did exactly what he asked.

(Extra bonus: fat-shaming! “Make sure she’s aware that you are in fact feeling a roll.”)

Sign the petition to get Comedy Central to kick this guy off the air.

Note that the network said fuck-all when this “go grope women!” segment aired —more than a year ago. So yeah, we need to make some noise.

oh my god

Jesus fucking rollerblading Christ.

death to daniel tosh

Put this cracka bastard away

[TW: street harassment] When my confident, curious, adventurous 12-year-old daughter asked if she could go get ice cream by herself (we live in a city) the first thing that I thought of was how to prepare her to hear:

“Where’s my smile, baby?”
“Wanna go for a ride?”

What if she is surprised? Looks down? Doesn’t give the guy speaking to her the positive response that he seems to think he’s entitled to? What hurtful, explicit things will he then say to put her in her place?

From now on, she’ll have to be on alert. How many times will she have to go out of her way, take longer routes, not go certain places, alter her clothes? Not forget to hold her keys poking through her fingers? Not take certain buses, and pay for a cab instead of taking a metro? Take her lighthearted moods and tuck them away behind earphones and fake phone conversations?

How will it make my daughter feel? Powerless? Angry? Sad? Scared? It’s stressful and depressing to have to acknowledge the underlying threat of violence, especially in a culture that is dedicated to equality for all, a concept predicated on equal and safe access to public space and free speech. Her loss of innocence will have as much to do with the betrayal of this myth of equality and equal access as with understanding her physical vulnerability.